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 Post subject: Look back at MLBPP special abilities
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:00 pm 
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I guess a post here would be cool:

So over the past month or so, on the discord server we talked about how the traits were dispersed in the default game; and that we wanted to clear some weird areas of it by editing players to reflect more IRL stuff.
I mentioned that we might not be taking the traits literally enough.

What I mean by this is that 'Timely Whiff' has the description: "Bats poorly with 2 strikes". Pretty much everyone here uses this ability for players that have high K% since it is reflected in the game play itself. Players with this ability usually top the league with total strikeout numbers if they play enough.

But certain players have it when they probably shouldn't. One example (also used in discord chat) was Robinson Cano being the owner of 'Timely Whiff'.
Cano's K% in 2007 was 12.7% (below league avg back then), 2008 was at 10.3%. So it's clear that Cano did not strikeout a lot (at least when the game came out, assuming devs used those season stats for skills and traits). BJ Upton had a 28.1 K% in 2007, 20.9 in 2008 (latter being high since 10+ years ago), but does not have Timely Whiff in MLBPP08.
So my suggestion was that maybe the devs either just dun goofed really bad with a lot of players or we aren't taking the description for its actual face value. "Bats poorly with 2 strikes," sure maybe the devs had an outline for batting with 2 strikes and Cano fell victim but the outcome results in massive K totals, along with low batting average (usually). It's confusing in some parts because you may think that the more you strikeout, you should probably bat worse with 2 strikes than someone that doesn't.

Another trait brought up was 'Dr. K'. Generally agreed that we use this one for pitchers with higher K/9 and K% numbers. Mike Mussina has this trait but his K/9 in 2007 was 5.4 (not above avg), 6.7 in 2008. But the trait reads: "Pitches well with two strikes". Again, maybe the devs had a formula for literally pitching with 2 strikes on a batter, not always resulting in a strikeout, but the game mechanics work that way.

Pretty poor planning since they were not all properly used, but it's also tough to understand it since we don't have their methods of applying these traits.

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